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37-630 chassis in 37-610 cabinet? - harleythatcher - 07-09-2018

Will the 37-630 chassis fit in a 37-610 Cabinet?  I think this size radio is called the "Bullit"?
Tk you.
Tt


RE: 37-630 chassis in 37-610 cabinet? - Ron Ramirez - 07-09-2018

Yes, but clearance of the 5Y4G rectifier will be an issue since its socket is on top of the power transformer.

Use of a 5Y4GA (shorter tube) will take care of that.

I have a 37-640 chassis in a 38-623 or 624 "Big Bullet" cabinet. I used a 5Y4GA and it fits fine.


RE: 37-630 chassis in 37-610 cabinet? - harleythatcher - 07-09-2018

Tks Ron.  How about the shadow meter on the 630? Will it fit?  Not even sure if the 610 has one.
Tt


RE: 37-630 chassis in 37-610 cabinet? - Ron Ramirez - 07-09-2018

Ah yes, the shadowmeter. No, the 37-610 has no shadowmeter, so its escutcheon has no provision for one.

If you can find an escutcheon for a 37-630T, or a 37-640B, you can use it in place of the 37-610T escutcheon. A 37-630 or 37-640 console escutcheon is larger and will not fit.

Barring that, you can remove the shadowmeter and connect a 1000 ohm, 1/2 watt resistor under the chassis in place of the shadowmeter.


RE: 37-630 chassis in 37-610 cabinet? - harleythatcher - 07-09-2018

Tk u Ron
Tt


RE: 37-630 chassis in 37-610 cabinet? - mikethedruid - 07-09-2018

Actually, there were different models of the 37-630. One had the rectifier tube on top of the transformer, the other has it on the chassis. The one I am currently working on has it on the chassis.


RE: 37-630 chassis in 37-610 cabinet? - Arran - 07-09-2018

A 5Y4GA or a 5Y4GT? You could also use a "gasp" metal tube in it's place. I don't know why Philco insisted on mounting the rectifier tube socket on the top bell of the transformer, it was likely the same logic with using a modular chassis design, but it causes many issues that a 1950s TV set with the same install would not have.
Regards
Arran


RE: 37-630 chassis in 37-610 cabinet? - Ron Ramirez - 07-09-2018

(07-09-2018, 05:19 PM)mikethedruid Wrote:  Actually, there were different models of the 37-630...

Right. The 37-630T chassis has the rectifier next to the audio output tube, on the chassis. The 37-630 console chassis has the rectifier tube on top of the power transformer.

I made an assumption that the OP had a 37-630 console chassis in which case my advice is correct regarding use of a 5Y4GA tube. If the OP has a chassis from a 37-630T, he's good to go as far as fit inside a 37-610T cabinet.


RE: 37-630 chassis in 37-610 cabinet? - harleythatcher - 07-09-2018

Sorry folks, I should have been more clear.  I have a chassis for a 37-630 the table top small guy I think it is called the Bullit?   The rec tube is NOT located on T1. However I do not have a cabinet for this so I was looking at a cabinet for the 37-610 on ebay and they seemed to be close enough.  But i was not sure which is why I came to the experts here.  What is the proper designation for this radio?
Thank you for everyone's help.
Tt


RE: 37-630 chassis in 37-610 cabinet? - Ron Ramirez - 07-09-2018

37-630T, Code 122

Late production version: 37-630T, Code 126 (RF unit is different, same frequency coverage)


RE: 37-630 chassis in 37-610 cabinet? - harleythatcher - 07-22-2018

Have almost completed rebuilding the 37-610T chassis and have one more question.  THe shadow meter will not fit due to lower edge of speaker.  I will replace with a 1k resistor.  How about the lite that goes with the S/M?  Can I just leave it out or is it needed in ckt?  If needed what ohmage resistor would be needed to replace it?
Tks
Tt


RE: 37-630 chassis in 37-610 cabinet? - Radioroslyn - 07-22-2018

The lamp is just connected across the filament line so no need to add a load in it's place.