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Philco 84 - Robert Miller - 05-07-2007

Hope this is not too silly. Have a Philco 80 and 90. Both have plastic dial scales attached to tuning capacitor which indiciates where you are at according to the front estrucheon.. Just got an 84. Plastic dial scale is attached to cabinet and cracked. I will try to find a replacement. Question is-Was there ever a pointer attached to the tuning cap shaft or did the tuning knob have a pointer to indicate where you are at on the scale? Have tried looking at pictures.

- rghines1 - 05-07-2007

On the Philco 90 the dial scale is attached/moves with the ganged tuning cap. So where is the pointer? There is a dial lamp that projects through a slit that acts as a dial pointer. The dial scale is translucent. Think Philco called it the "beam of light".

Richard

dial scale - Robert Miller - 05-07-2007

Yes the dial scale moves with the 90. That's one I have. I am trying to find out about the 84, the one I just got. It has a rectangular dial scale glued to the cabinet on the inside. Is there a pointer for this one? Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Thanks.

Re: dial scale - Steve Chambers - 05-07-2007

Robert Miller Wrote:Yes the dial scale moves with the 90. That's one I have. I am trying to find out about the 84, the one I just got. It has a rectangular dial scale glued to the cabinet on the inside. Is there a pointer for this one? Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Thanks.

Yes, there is a pointer that fits over the dial shaft. It is made of a fiber material and is often missing. See the following picture:

http://antiqueradios.com/gallery/v/temp/pointer_001.JPG.html

Steve Chambers

- Robert Miller - 05-08-2007

That's what I needed to know. I can make something that will work. Does any one make repro's?

RE: Philco 84 - Ron Ramirez - 05-26-2007

Mark Oppat makes silkscreened dial scale reproductions of excellent quality.
http://www.oldradioparts.net/dials1.html

Radio Daze will be carrying the dial scales formerly sold by Rock-Sea Enterprises, but you cannot browse the dial scale selection on their website yet.
http://www.radiodaze.com/

Is this the scale you are looking for?

[Image: http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k420/mrphilco/Phorum%20Stuff/84scale.jpg]

If so, send me an e-mail or PM. I have been experimenting with making my own dial scales.

- Robert Miller - 05-30-2007

Thanks for the reply. I did get a reproduction dial face from Radio Daze. I am trying to find out more about the actual dial pointer that goes on the shaft. I have made one that will suffice I think.

Re: Philco 84 - dnitram - 01-02-2011

I recently began restoration of a model 84 cathedral relatives gave me some years ago. The dial scale that came with the set was mostly missing and what was left had re-lettered in black marker and had been nailed to the inside of the cabinet. The remaining part number on that scale didn't match what came on the 84, however Radio Daze was able to provide the correct dial (nice folks at Radio Daze!). Can anyone provide me with information and/or pictures as how the dial is supposed to look and how to install it correctly? This set is a family piece and I'd really like to do it right. Oh, I'm also trying to determine if this set came from Philco with the gold Philco lettering on the front panel... I don't see it in some of the examples, but wanted to check here.

Thanks so much for you helping a "newbie!"

David

Re: Philco 84 - Radioroslyn - 01-02-2011

<Oh, I'm also trying to determine if this set came from Philco with the gold Philco lettering on the front panel

I don't believe it did. I think it says PHILCO on the dial but not on the cabinet. Ron could set you straight on that for sure.
Terry

Re: Philco 84 - Radioroslyn - 01-02-2011

Boy this page has gotten a lot of views!!!!
tERRY

Re: Philco 84 - Radioroslyn - 01-02-2011

I don't know if someone is making a reproduction pointer. As mentioned before it is common for it to be missing or broken. If someone hears about a repro I could use three or four myself!
Terry

Re: Philco 84 - gary rabbitt - 01-05-2011

Hi guys,
I am currently working on a model 84. I have the 84 that is a more round cabinet around the grille, but this one is the more humped catherdal style with the round dial.

The dial is held in place by tiny tacks about 1/8" long. I will post a shot of them when I get a chance later.
The pointer is just a slip-on pointer that goes on the tuning shaft.
I will post a photo of the top view also, with a scale nearby for correct size.

If I had to make one, I'd use a scrap piece of thin circuit board, or even a thin sheet of stiff plastic. Use a Dremel to shape it after tracing the outline on the board. Mark the center hole, then slowly widen it to the right diameter, but just a little on the tight side so it holds in place. Spray it flat black to finish it off.

Here's the images of the pointer.
[Image: http://antiqueradios.com/gallery/d/131984-1/pointer_001.JPG]

[Image: http://antiqueradios.com/gallery/d/131986-1/pointer2.JPG]

[Image: http://antiqueradios.com/gallery/d/131989-2/pointer3.JPG]

Re: Philco 84 - gary rabbitt - 01-05-2011

Robert,
Here are the tacks that hold the dial scale in place. You may be able to find something that small in a hobby shop.
Personally, I wouldn't apply a glue or sillycone to hold it in.
[Image: http://antiqueradios.com/gallery/d/131992-2/tacks.JPG]