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RCA 68R3 Help
#1

I have a RCA-68R3 Riders vol. 16 pages 39-43.
http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel...015092.pdf

I have recapped and tested all the tubes, checked the resistors and replaced those over 20%. The AM plays fine the FM does not!
I have checked all the voltages which are on the prints and they are within 10-20%
I have checked all the coils for an open and they are as follows. Did not subtract for the leads and I was able to isolate at least one end.
T1 a&f .3 c&d .4
T2 a&f 10 c&d 11
T3 a&f .8 c&d 1.5
T4 a&f 11.8 c&d 8.8
T5 a&b .9 c&d .9
T6 d&e .6 d&f 1.1 e&f 1.1

While poking around with the voltmeter on V5 6ALS ratio detector pin7 & T6 e I get a couple of faint stations with the volt meter connected.
Now this radio does not have mica caps but small wax covered tubular caps should I go ahead and change them?
Looking for ideas on where to check next.

Thanks, Eric
#2

Maybe a clue. On mine I was able to hear some weak stuff down at the bottom of the band. Messing with the RF trimmer and coil made them louder but the osc trimmer wouldn't move them up the band significantly.

Turns out the osc trimmer was bad. Once replaced and everything realigned it worked ok. I'd suspect the trimmer as being the prime suspect. Many people have reported the exact same problem.

And yes, you should replace all wax paper caps.

   

   

   
#3

Well I know what I will be doing tomorrow! Great pictures and I do get a few very faint stations on the low end of the scale.
Thanks
#4

Ok, As the song says " I Can See Clearly Now" This is exactly my problems
I'm going to start at the bottom.
3 My slugs look about like yours about 5/16 on the right and 5/8 on the left.
2 I have no screw there I will put one there and solder the two parts of the chassis
1 The silver on the inside center part is pretty much eaten up the lower where you indicate is black. Can I resolder the part you indicate? Is it part c-33 2.5-13 mmf? Can I buy a replacement or put in a fixed?
#5

I think you'll find that it won't take solder. Maybe silver solder would work?
You can't use a fixed cap there. You'll probably have to use a different type of trimmer and figure out a method of mounting. AES used to have some surplus ones that were an exact fit but that was a decade ago.
#6

Silver solder with tin-lead just fine but if oxidized badly it won't take the solder.
You can also buy a trimmer cap and solder it in place.
Or use a patch of copper foil and such, conductive paint possibly.

If trying to solder be careful not to take the remnants of the silver off, or this will be it for this trimmer.
#7

I have restored two Tandberg (Norwegian) radios from abt 1940 that used similar caps throughout the multiband RF and osc stages. Nearly every one was bad in a similar manner. Aargh!

Search on ebay and you'll probably be able to find something usable. Even those little modern plastic trimmers can be made to work here since there isn't any significant voltage to contend with.
#8

It will have to wait till Monday as I'm headed to Lexington Ky till Sunday. I do have some questions,
If it is c-33 on the print 2.2-13mmf I have a 5 &10mmf I would like to solder one of them in to see if I can get the FM to work do I need to remove the trimmer or can I parallel it?
#9

Well...the existing cap is essentially open but it presents a pf or two of stray capacitance because its still there. Nothing wrong with trying to patch in your 10pf trimmer across it. May not be the best solution but worth a try.
#10

   

I have removed the trimmer C33 2.5-13pf and put in a 10pf silver mica while unsoldering C1 (27pf) came apart (could have been part of the original problem) so I had a 24pf I put it in. When I adjusted L3 and L1 and especially C31 it came alive. Now while doing a google search for 2.5-13pf trimmer I got a hit that took me to one of the electronic sellers and there it was the same part mounting holes and all so I ordered a couple of them should be here around the end of the week. I will change it as the far end around 108fm is a little faint.
#11

Good luck!
That cap is only for setting the tuning range for the local oscillator to get reception showing at the right places on he dial. The combination of it and the associated coil will establish the correct 88-108 tuning range. So if you figure a mid-setting of say 8pf then any trimmer of 2-10, 3-15, 5-20, etc can work.

Once that's established, the other coil/cap combo will establish peak reception performance for the two ends of the band.

Unfortunately, IMHO, the 68R* series aren't going to set the sky ablaze with superior FM reception. The poor dog doesn't have an RF Amp on the FM band.
#12

exray
It actually works pretty good I did play with the slugs to get the proper dial settings.
Thanks for the help




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