Welcome Guest! Be sure you know and follow the Phorum Rules before posting. Thank you and Enjoy! (January 12) x

Thread Closed
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Not unlucky anymore, I guess....a tale of an audio oscilaltor. Thanks Brenda.
#31

OK, the tubes:

12J5
12SA7
50L6
35Z5


Now, the interesting thing: I have just come home and put two halves of that same cap to keep reforming, installing two 50K resistors to each half. One of them has been reformed since yesterday evening and through the nigh.
The thing is, the second half behaves as if it were reformed too - it has the same more or less leakage current and the difference between the two voltage drops across the two resistors is about 1V - 3V vs 4V or so. Right now (after 20 minutes) it is 3.3V vs 2.7V.

there should be some peculiarity of the way the cap is made that resulted in it.
#32

OK, yesterday night I started reforming the second cap and it was reforming much faster, and in the morning I saw the residual voltages on the resistors about order of magnitude lower than on the other cap. Then again, this one is from 1953 and the previous cap was from 1948. Not sure of that should matter. But in the morning I saw the voltages of 0.2V and 0.15V avross 50K resistors whereas the otehr cap had about 1.5 and 3V respectively.

Long story short, tonight I soldered the caps in place (good thing I photographed them from above and from the solder side so there were no questions, plus the wires are rigid solid type so they kept at their places well. BTW the wire is enameled. Almost looks like a magnet wire in jacketing. I had to strip the enamel), used two wires to connect isolating transformer to the input and fired it up, putting the scope at the output.

It works just fine. Generates the full range in cycles and kilocycles.

One down.

Now, I got the Pushpull transformer for the 90, might as well finish it tonight.
#33

That's great. Its always satisfying to work on a well engineered and made piece of equipment that's still working with all its original parts more than a half century later.

Its also interesting to note that while Chinese electrolytics are failing in modern equipment after only a few years, good US made caps can still test and operate as new 65 years later.

And it does illustrate than many of these old electrolytics can be returned to service without replacement by proper reforming. I would expect that the electrolytics in your HP 200CD can similarly be saved. You may even be able to reform them in place without desoldering them.
#34

Actually this is what I think I will start doing from now on.
If I see that a cap shows full or larger capacitance, I will try to re-form it rather than open it and re-stuff. I have done that to at least 3-4 caps and every time I felt bad. Luckily most of them caps from 30s are dry so it is an easy decision.




Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
[-]
Recent Posts
Philco 42-345 Restoration/Repair
The thrill is gone again, thought I was close to being done with it. Well Friday it was receiving broadcast, Saturday mo...osanders0311 — 07:47 PM
Help with Supreme 599
Iam getting closer to fixing it. I bumped Up the tranny voltage to get 5v on the 80 tube. I gan get the needle to move ...daveone23 — 03:41 PM
Philco 42-345 Restoration/Repair
Hello RodB, Checking my previous post I realized you're the one with the 42-340. I replaced the string for the tuning...osanders0311 — 03:12 PM
5U4 vs 5Z4 tubes
I saw no evidence of anything going wrong. The transformer is fused already which is nice. Interestingly the 5z4 did...bridkarl — 02:37 PM
5U4 vs 5Z4 tubes
I doubt anything cooked in 30 seconds because of the oops! These are very similar tubes, and nothing but transformer re...GarySP — 02:30 PM
Restoration of the Canadian General Electric A-87
Paul Philco322.You will be keeping very busy, you may have to go back to work for a breakIcon_smile. Paul To rel...RadioSvit — 01:57 PM
5U4 vs 5Z4 tubes
I grabbed the wrong tube and put in a 5U4 tube instead of the 5Z4 - I just had the rectifier in with no other tubes. Af...bridkarl — 01:54 PM
Restoration of the Canadian General Electric A-87
After applying the filler to the entire body, I noticed that the shades of the facade and the side and top walls were ve...RadioSvit — 01:49 PM
Restoration of the Canadian General Electric A-87
You will be keeping very busy, you may have to go back to work for a break:). PaulPaul Philco322 — 01:46 PM
Restoration of the Canadian General Electric A-87
After removing the control knobs, chassis, dynamics and scale frame, I first started restoring the torn piece of veneer....RadioSvit — 01:20 PM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently no members online.

>