Posts: 228
Threads: 64
Joined: Dec 2013
City: Northbrook, IL
There is a set available, regular thing, hum, etc,etc. Cabinet appears to be easily restored. I think I can get it for less than $200.00.Do not know much about those sets. Opinions?
Thanks in advance.
Posts: 3,158
Threads: 59
Joined: Apr 2011
City: Lexington, KY
The AK 84 was their first cathedral style radio, and while not as ornate as later offerings such as the model 82, it is still considered a beautiful cabinet.
Price is dependent on condition of chassis and cabinet, and I'm not sure what you consider "easily restored", but in decent shape under $200 sounds like a very good price.
I would not plug it in again until, at the least, the filter capacitors are replaced, or that hum may turn into a transformer smoking. Good luck, the AK 84 is a very nice radio and one of my favorites.
John KK4ZLF
Lexington, KY
"illegitimis non carborundum"
Posts: 2,353
Threads: 92
Joined: May 2010
City: Clayton, NC
Agree, a model 84 in decent shape is worth 200.00
Posts: 16,511
Threads: 572
Joined: Oct 2011
City: Jackson
State, Province, Country: NJ
If it is in decent shape.....I have not seen any below 300 on eBay and in Kutztown they were $350 the lowest; none sold though but the owners do stick by the price and won't budge.
So....yes, below $200 seems like a good deal.
Posts: 228
Threads: 64
Joined: Dec 2013
City: Northbrook, IL
Which manufacturer supplied tubes for AK 84? I have some 24 and 27 but they are Philco.
Posts: 3,158
Threads: 59
Joined: Apr 2011
City: Lexington, KY
I think they usually used Cunningham tubes, but that probably would not have been an absolute rule.
John KK4ZLF
Lexington, KY
"illegitimis non carborundum"
Posts: 2,118
Threads: 112
Joined: Jun 2010
City: Medford OR (OR what?)
I had heard that AK used both RCA and Cunningham. Same tubes.
Posts: 4,900
Threads: 54
Joined: Sep 2008
City: Sandwick, BC, CA
One thing to watch for on some of the A.K cathedrals are bad power transformers, I can't remember whether a model 84 is one of them or not. With luck the one in this set may have been replaced, rewound, or may be a 25 cycle one.
Regards
Arran
Posts: 228
Threads: 64
Joined: Dec 2013
City: Northbrook, IL
If I have an original weak globe RCA 80 and instead of paying for the single tube almost 1/3 of the radio price went with a full wave diode rectifier under the chassis (keeping the tube as a decorative, lit filament piece, of course), which diodes(##) are most suitable for an application?
That is if someone have already done so. Thanks.
(This post was last modified: 05-27-2014, 10:40 AM by fields 100.)
Posts: 1,114
Threads: 14
Joined: Feb 2013
City: Irvington, NY
I would not recommend it. First, the diodes have a very low forward drop, so unless you add series resistors you will end up with high B+ voltage. The tube 80 also acts as sort of a fuse, in that under momentary overload it will limit the transformer current to a safer value than a silicon diode. With a short on the B+ line the plates of the 80 may glow red, but if shut off quickly, likely no damage will result.
How bad is your 80? Sometimes a weak 80 still has enough emission to provide rated B+ voltage to the radio, especially with today's higher line voltage
Posts: 3,158
Threads: 59
Joined: Apr 2011
City: Lexington, KY
Personally I wouldn't bother doing that with a tube as readily available as an 80. You can get a new 80 for $12 or good used for $6:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?...0foD#gid=4
It won't be a globe but it won't require kludging in diodes and resistors under the chassis either. Keep your eyes open and you'll eventually find a good globe 80 on eBay, a radio meet, an old parts set, or a wanted ad. There is no shortage of globe 80's out there if you're patient.
I'd also measure B+ with a good 80 and then your weak one; often a weak 80 isn't that far off, depending on the parameters of the tube tester used.
If you're still determined you can use two 1N4007's and a wire wound resistor to drop the B+ down to what it measures with a known good 80 in the circuit.
John KK4ZLF
Lexington, KY
"illegitimis non carborundum"
Posts: 228
Threads: 64
Joined: Dec 2013
City: Northbrook, IL
It is in the yellow field, about 55-56.I have not tried it yet on this radio. So, if the B+ within a spec.,I can use it, right?
But the diodes are definitely out. Hiding tiny diodes is one thing, but the wire resistor...
Thanks, guys.
(This post was last modified: 05-27-2014, 01:25 PM by fields 100.)
Posts: 3,158
Threads: 59
Joined: Apr 2011
City: Lexington, KY
Yes, it should be fine if the B+ is OK. Just make sure you change out the filter and paper capacitors before firing it up.
John KK4ZLF
Lexington, KY
"illegitimis non carborundum"
Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
|
Recent Posts
|
philco predicta
|
The model is the holiday without UHF It has no sound and I don't have an oscilloscope or signal generator.cgl18 — 08:51 PM |
Philco model 38 code 121 not receiving signal.
|
I will definitely check my lead length and wire dressing. Thanks for the ideas.Stormlord5500 — 08:06 PM |
Philco model 38 code 121 not receiving signal.
|
Do make sure that you twist the 3 wires from the chassis to the transformer, and dress away from tubes, especially audio...MrFixr55 — 07:38 PM |
Philco model 38 code 121 not receiving signal.
|
The cone unfortunately got damaged when I removed it. The glue that held the cone to the basket was sloppily applied and...Stormlord5500 — 07:12 PM |
Philco model 38 code 121 not receiving signal.
|
So what was wrong with the original speaker? Was the cone damaged? Unless it's totally hopeless I would put it aside as ...Arran — 05:31 PM |
My collection presentation
|
There is an article on my site that introduces the first portable radios in my collection. I have only provided a link t...Vlad95 — 01:17 PM |
Electrolytic restuffing/internals
|
Bridkarl
This specific cap you have is the easiset type to restuff.
I usually cut it at the upper border of the depr...morzh — 11:35 AM |
philco predicta
|
Hi CGL18,
First off, welcome to the Philco Phorum. I have not worked on a TV for a while but here are some givens:
...MrFixr55 — 08:22 AM |
Another amp build - here I go again!
|
Sweet!
I actually have a Dynaco Mark 4 that I had been running with 6L6s with no mods. Seemed to my 14-year-old head a...MrFixr55 — 12:57 AM |
PT-6 finished!!
|
Hi Gang,
Tube heaters are not "Ohmic" devices (that maintain specified resistance over wide temperature, c...MrFixr55 — 12:03 AM |
Who's Online
|
There are currently 1064 online users. [Complete List] » 1 Member(s) | 1063 Guest(s)
|
|
|

|