[gregb]

Here's the link to the thread that I think pbert is referring to:
http://philcoradio.com/phorum/showthread.php?tid=11011

Thanks! Its just so happens that one set uses the loctal socket and the other uses the octal version and they both have the same problem. I will try the socket first and see what happens. We are lucky here in that it is so dry we never have to worry about moisture issues unless it was outside in the rain. Anyone know what the problem with the socket could be? I understand if it was a moisture issue but we don't have that issue here.

Gregb