Welcome Guest! Be sure you know and follow the Phorum Rules before posting. Thank you and Enjoy! (January 12) x

Thread Closed
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Speaker Difference H13 vs H16 ?
#1

In need of H13, but see a H16 available
Anyone know specs on these 2 speakers?

Bob T
#2

http://www.philcoradio.com/phorum/showth...hp?tid=215

Specifically, the file Philco Speakers - speakers.zip.

Now:

Both are 10-1/2 inch speakers.

H13 - 1125 ohm field @ 65 mA; output transformer primary 5,900 ohms push-pull to match 1.25 ohm voice coil

H16 - 660 ohm field @ 80 mA; output transformer primary 7,200 ohm single-ended to match 1.25 ohm voice coil

If you were to use an H16, you would need to add resistance in series with the field or else your B+ would run too high. Plus you would have to replace the output transformer with a suitable push-pull unit.

--
Ron Ramirez
Ferdinand IN
#3

Thanks Ron

Looking for the H13, but may have to bite on the H16

What do you think chances of finding the H13 are ?

Bob T
#4

Bob, it would seem that you shouldn't have too much difficulty finding an H-13 as it was used in many Philco models such as:

16B, 18D, 18H, 18L, 18X, 116B (early), 118D, 118H, 118X, 118MX, 503L, 507L

and in the following - consoles only: 650, 655, 660, 665

However...as popular as model 16 (and 116B) sets are, that may limit your ability to find a good one.

Good luck! Icon_thumbup

--
Ron Ramirez
Ferdinand IN
#5

A couple questions about this.  I was talking to Bob (joybird) about a speaker I have, that I acquired in what I believe is a 16RX cabinet.

It's a 10-1/2" speaker that looks very much like the speaker in my 16B (version 3), except the cover over the contacts is set up for a flat cable instead of a regular 4-wire harness.  It's stamped H13 on the back of the field coil.  The paper on the field coil is stamped 1126.  The basket of the speaker is stamped UU8U.  Using my VOM, I measure 1102 Ω on the field coil, 289 Ω on the primary of the audio transformer, and less than 0.5 Ω across the voice coil and audio xfmr secondary.

I would think from the UU8U stamp that this is a U-8 speaker, but according to the list a 16RX should have a U-2.  What do I have here?


Attached Files Image(s)
           
#6

That is an H-13. The "U" speakers were a completely different design.

Steve

M R Radios   C M Tubes
#7

Thanks Steve. So why does this style cabinet have an H13 speaker?

According to Ron's list, it should be a U2, right?




Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
[-]
Recent Posts
PT 6 chassis screws size???
Hello bridKarl, that sounds right or maybe 8/32 . Sincerely Richardradiorich — 01:00 AM
PT 6 chassis screws size???
Have this done except for missing chassis screws. It looks like 1 inch 6/32 sheet metal screw may work but can anyone s...bridkarl — 10:32 PM
Philco model 38 code 121 not receiving signal.
Hello Stormlord, Well done on rewinding that coil it turned fairly good for your first one. Sincerely Richardradiorich — 09:12 PM
Philco model 38 code 121 not receiving signal.
Well here it is. It ain't pretty, but hopefully it'll work. I checked it with my DMM on continuity and it keeps and r...Stormlord5500 — 08:56 PM
Philco 42-345 Restoration/Repair
Yes, 57 is an electrolytic cap that should be 12 mfd 400 volts according to the parts list from the Phorum library schem...RodB — 06:01 PM
Philco 42-345 Restoration/Repair
Looks like if I am reading it correctly it looks like the silver capacitor#57 that appears to be a replacement is of a l...osanders0311 — 05:09 PM
Philco model 38 code 121 not receiving signal.
Thanks Arran. Yeah this plastic is pretty thin. It's a little thinner than the original stuff. It kinda reminds me of p...Stormlord5500 — 04:37 PM
Testing a speaker and output transformer Trutone A2-G
The equivalent of one short turn is basically the same as that of a shorted load. If it is the primary's turn, then the ...morzh — 03:53 PM
Testing a speaker and output transformer Trutone A2-G
I've never had an output transformer become shorted, the failure mode is usually an open primary, or in a center tapped ...Arran — 03:52 PM
Philco model 38 code 121 not receiving signal.
As long as the plastic sheeting isn't too thick, I think that the thickness of photographic film would be just about rig...Arran — 03:19 PM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently no members online.

>