[tomt]

Something else comes to mind, check the LO frequency to be sure it's on the high side of the signal and not the low side.

being away from any repairs for about 35 yeas makes it kind of hard! do you mean set to high side of 455kc if I missed a wire or got one wrong in wrong place on the band switch could this cause my problem. man I used to think I could work on radios some of these old ones will challenge me Thank for your help. ps I was looking at you gallery and seen your 84b; I have  one like it I am working on I got into vintage about a year ago having fun!!