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Grundig Majestic 8058
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Today I extracted all 4 other electrolytics, all axial.
One of them, the 10uF 350V, is RIGHT ON THE MONEY. I almost regretted taking it out. But......it is 62 years old. Time to go.

I ordered the 6 pieces I need from Mouser.

The cap from the crossover is an enigma. It is the same thing as we had in 38-690 with that 1uF cap.
The cap IS a polarized electrolytic, 20uF 30/40V. With "+" clearly shown.
I am not sure how this works with no problem but this is one of 2 or 3 electrolytics that is still tests well. And, yes, I am changing it - I am leaving no cap unturned except the polyesther (very few of these, the rest is paper and all are bad) and tubular ceramics.

So, I unsoldered this cap, that is unusually large for its parfameters, and measured it on my LCR meter (Standford Research) in "C+R" mode to see the ESR.
It is very surprising, the ESR drops to 0.06 Ohm at 10kHz, being about 3 Ohm at 100Hz.
The high-ripple 20uF 450V cap by Panasonic (almost 700 ma ripple) I usually use for my restorations as he rectifier filter, shows about 1 Ohm with little variations across the frequency range. Which made me decide against it in the crossover.
I only had one other electrolytic (new) actilng like this, namely Non-pol from Parts Express, the 100uF; the rest have much higher ESR.

So, I chose to use a film cap, 20uF 250V. Those can take high current and have very negligible ESR, and I do not have to think up the theory how a polarized cap works in pure AC curcuit. An expensive SOB, they start at about $8. I mean, there are those $4 apiec from China....But I prefer Illinois cap from Mouser: wherever it is made, it is a reputable name.

So.....meantime I have to cut open the big can for which I ordered two 100uF 400V caps to restuff. Hayseed will quote but I imagine the price, especially the very special one like this, with the raised panel, will cost too much, and me being accustomed to restuff big cans, that us a sheer waste.

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.


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Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-04-2020, 07:55 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic - by morzh - 09-04-2020, 08:16 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic - by RadioSvit - 09-05-2020, 02:53 AM
RE: Grundig Majestic - by RadioSvit - 09-05-2020, 03:03 AM
RE: Grundig Majestic - by morzh - 09-05-2020, 10:33 AM
RE: Grundig Majestic - by RadioSvit - 09-05-2020, 01:13 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic - by morzh - 09-05-2020, 01:39 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic - by RadioSvit - 09-06-2020, 10:04 AM
RE: Grundig Majestic - by morzh - 09-06-2020, 12:52 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-06-2020, 07:54 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by Phlogiston - 09-06-2020, 08:00 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-06-2020, 08:42 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by RadioSvit - 09-07-2020, 05:16 AM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-07-2020, 08:55 AM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by RadioSvit - 09-07-2020, 09:25 AM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-07-2020, 10:59 AM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-07-2020, 08:10 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-08-2020, 07:20 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by RodB - 09-08-2020, 07:57 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-08-2020, 08:36 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-09-2020, 09:08 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-10-2020, 08:53 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-11-2020, 07:43 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-12-2020, 09:18 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-13-2020, 06:05 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by vecher - 09-13-2020, 07:22 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-13-2020, 08:32 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by vecher - 09-13-2020, 09:24 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-13-2020, 10:24 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-17-2020, 09:54 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-19-2020, 07:57 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by vecher - 09-22-2020, 11:14 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-23-2020, 06:22 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by vecher - 09-23-2020, 10:03 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-23-2020, 10:50 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by vecher - 09-23-2020, 11:10 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-24-2020, 07:39 AM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by rfeenstra - 09-24-2020, 08:49 AM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-24-2020, 10:37 AM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-27-2020, 04:23 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-29-2020, 08:42 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by radiohenry - 09-30-2020, 03:19 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-30-2020, 04:38 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by Paul Philco322 - 09-30-2020, 04:47 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 09-30-2020, 07:18 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by Eliot Ness - 09-30-2020, 08:28 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by radiohenry - 09-30-2020, 08:35 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 10-01-2020, 10:24 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 10-03-2020, 04:49 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 10-03-2020, 10:55 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 10-04-2020, 07:47 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 10-10-2020, 12:49 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 10-11-2020, 06:50 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 10-12-2020, 10:44 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 10-13-2020, 10:28 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 10-14-2020, 07:59 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 10-18-2020, 03:22 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by Paul Philco322 - 10-18-2020, 04:48 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 10-18-2020, 04:51 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 10-20-2020, 01:38 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 10-22-2020, 09:21 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 10-27-2020, 08:42 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 10-31-2020, 05:54 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 11-04-2020, 06:00 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 11-18-2020, 07:14 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by vecher - 11-18-2020, 07:38 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 11-18-2020, 08:29 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 12-06-2020, 08:57 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 12-13-2020, 05:43 PM
RE: Grundig Majestic 8058 - by morzh - 12-23-2020, 08:07 PM



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