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Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box
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Hey Chas,

You caught me. Since the replacement transformers had all wires cut within 1/4 to 1/2 inch of tar sealant, and all wires had turned the equal shade of black. I did not know how to determine start/finish of each winding. Was there originally a colored thread in the wire cloth to determine which wire was start or finish? Also, even if I did know the start and finish ends of the winding, what determines the connection point in the radio?  If the 1st audio transformer start/finish wires are known for the primary, does the start end connect to the detector tube plate or +20 supply?  

Phlogiston was kind enough to school me in turns ratio determining if the audio will distort. Here again I didn't know how to determine turns ratio to a sealed transformer.

I did try a little researching. Internet,  and the books, Elements of radio servicing, and Robert Shraders Electronic Communication 3rd edition. If the information was in anything I read, was unable to translate it to answer my questions. 

So I simply read resistance, determined which was primary or secondary windings. Used white wires to identify primary winding and black secondary. Thought as long as primary  and secondary wires are connected according to the schematic, at least the radio should work at some level and not smoke out of the gate. I have found some mistakes in repairs. For instance the Detector phone capacitor was connected between ground and #2 tube, pin 4 filament, and not between ground and 90volt B+.

If there are ways to determine the answers please share the details. I have a four channel oscope and 8640B sig gen, a variety of multi-meters and know how to use them. Just need a little technical hand holding and direction to identify the Whats,Where, and Hows.  
I can re-do all that I've done if needed.

Thanks Again

Tim


Messages In This Thread
Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-18-2021, 04:49 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-18-2021, 04:53 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Chas - 04-18-2021, 05:56 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-18-2021, 08:56 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Chas - 04-18-2021, 11:51 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-19-2021, 09:14 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Chas - 04-19-2021, 10:46 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Eliot Ness - 04-19-2021, 12:31 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-19-2021, 04:59 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Chas - 04-19-2021, 06:47 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-19-2021, 07:52 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-20-2021, 08:47 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Chas - 04-20-2021, 10:28 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-20-2021, 11:15 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Chas - 04-20-2021, 01:29 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-21-2021, 07:19 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Chas - 04-21-2021, 09:54 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-21-2021, 12:01 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Chas - 04-21-2021, 10:13 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-22-2021, 03:45 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Chas - 04-22-2021, 04:30 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-23-2021, 07:18 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-23-2021, 04:28 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Chas - 04-24-2021, 08:39 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-24-2021, 10:03 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-25-2021, 09:52 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Chas - 04-25-2021, 10:20 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-25-2021, 11:51 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Chas - 04-25-2021, 03:59 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-26-2021, 04:18 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-29-2021, 12:38 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Chas - 04-29-2021, 04:23 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-29-2021, 05:01 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Chas - 04-29-2021, 05:10 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 04-29-2021, 05:41 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Phlogiston - 05-01-2021, 03:15 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 05-01-2021, 07:18 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 05-02-2021, 01:02 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Phlogiston - 05-02-2021, 04:17 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 05-03-2021, 01:35 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 05-04-2021, 02:47 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 05-04-2021, 05:26 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Chas - 05-06-2021, 11:05 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 05-07-2021, 08:34 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 05-07-2021, 08:58 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Chas - 05-07-2021, 09:50 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 05-07-2021, 11:46 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Chas - 05-07-2021, 12:01 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 05-12-2021, 08:59 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by admin - 05-12-2021, 09:26 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Phlogiston - 05-12-2021, 05:18 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by TTech - 05-12-2021, 08:49 PM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by Chas - 05-14-2021, 11:13 AM
RE: Atwater Kent model 20 Big Box - by OZ4 - 05-17-2021, 11:57 AM



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